If they wanted to pass the bill in congress, how best would they do it? They’d talk directly to the legislators in congress itself, they’d intentionally make the border worse, which has not happened recently as border restrictions have increased. They’d be pleading their case about Ukraine or gaining public support for Ukraine spending via dark money ad campaigns, but none of the easier or more subtle options are being used, so it’s likely that something as indirect and pointless as killing someone we advocate for would be a good way to make the bill pass.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
I'm not saying the neocon congressmen themselves are directly involved, it was likely a CIA asset or something. It could have been a Ukrainian asset. We simply don't know. But I do know that powerful forces and powerful self-interests are involved in this, and the stakes could not be higher. That's why I explore such dark possibilities with courage and rational analysis.
@9CJ6CB63mos3MO
We both do in that respect, just on near polar opposite sides. I have much suspicion of the US government, especially the CIA, but my main critiques lie with Russia due to their long and reliable track record of lies and corruption that transcends our government’s own issues.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
Then why did you feel the need to protest me saying that someone had to start talking about dark possibilities? Why did you use Ad Hominem attacks on it as a "conspiracy theory"? If we agree that these things should be examined, then let them be examined without badmouthing those who examine them!
@9CJ6CB63mos3MO
Because the possibility of us killing an ally of a protester is not nearly equivalent to the possibility of someone with a common track record of murder being considered. The situation even doesn’t make too much sense, if they wanted the bill, there’s better ways to get it. I’m saying that considering that possibility as if it’s superior to Putin just being a murderer is false equivalence, even misguided logical reasoning in many ways.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
I'm not necessarily saying that happened, all I'm saying is that it would be a useless and stupid decision for Putin, who thought evil is very intelligent, to kill Nalvany, therefore we should not assume as much, much less use that unproven theory as a basis for any negative emotions toward Russia we wouldn't already have. Certainly it's no argument for them to pass the 95 billion dollar aid bill that's in Congress right now. This is not misguided logical reasoning – I haven't even assumed anything – all I'm saying is that we need more information and the situation looks highly suspicious. To say as much should not be controversial.
