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  @TruthHurts101 from Washington commented…10mos10MO

Because workers are not forced to work they can freaking quit the job if they believe they are being exploited. With such stupid people as you, the drums of war are beating and let the war come, I repeat, let it come! Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be bought at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me Liberty or give me Death!

  @VulcanMan6  from Kansas commented…10mos10MO

lol so are you literally arguing that "Liberty" means being legally denied ownership over the profits of your own labor? You genuinely mean to tell me that workers are NOT entitled to the fruits of their own labor? That's literally the opposite of freedom and liberty. You're seriously defending the right to steal the product of another man's hard work? What a fake Libertarian you are lol...

  @TruthHurts101 from Washington commented…10mos10MO

What a TRUE libertarian I am. Workers do get the fruits of their labour, it's called a PAYCHECK, stupid. And do you think the business owners, who've worked their butts off to get where they are, should have the fruits of their labour taken by government coercion from THEM? What about THEM, stupid?

  @VulcanMan6  from Kansas commented…10mos10MO

Wow so you DO think that workers' profits should be taken from them? And by people who didn't even have to work at all in the first place? And that the government should legally allow and defend this practice? Yea you for sure do not genuinely believe in freedom or liberty, especially not if you defend systems in which the profits of a man's labor should be legally and forcefully taken from him, by someone who didn't even produce them. That's just messed up, dude.

You'd rather defend the right of a mini dictator to steal the fruits of hard workers' labor than the rights of workers to own their own production. That's some pathetic boot-licker nonsense.

Tell me, do you think the relationship of dictatorships is bad? Why or why not?

  @TruthHurts101 from Washington commented…10mos10MO

Why do you have such powerful predudices against the rich? Why do you demand that the fruits of THEIR hard work by handed to you on a silver platter? Guess what, Snowflake -- no one owes you a dang thing. If you're going to go through life clinging to the illusion that the State is going be your many your going to go through life WRONG. I think the only reason you hate the rich is because your jealous that you have neither the courage nor the brain cell count to be as successful as they are and that's the only way you have left to tell yourself you're not stupid.

  @TruthHurts101 from Washington commented…10mos10MO

If everything you say is true then why has socialism always failed? Answer me that. Look at every socialist dictatorship and name one policy they promised that you disagree with. Name one.

  @VulcanMan6  from Kansas commented…10mos10MO

Which nations are you referring to? Considering socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are socially-owned, can you...name one that instituted such a system? I am not aware of any such nations. I can think of plenty of nations that attempted to break free from global capitalism via transitional state-planning, but I don't know of any that actually implemented a socially-owned economy. Which nations do you know of that had socially-owned economies?

  @TruthHurts101 from Washington corrected…10mos10MO

This may help you -- USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, Plymouth, Massachusetts in the 1620s, Jamestown, Nazi Germany, the list goes on

  @VulcanMan6  from Kansas commented…10mos10MO

So you are genuinely trying to tell me that: "USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, Plymouth, Massachusetts in the 1620s, Jamestown, Nazi Germany" had socially-owned economic systems..? Do you know what "socially-owned" means? It should be self-explanatory, but it means that society itself owns the economy. Are you under the impression that every North Korean citizen shares ownership of the North Korean economy? Every Russian citizen shared ownership of the USSR economy? Every German citizen shared ownership of the Nazi economy? I thought you claimed they were dictatorships, now you're telling me they were socially-owned..? Which is it?

  @TruthHurts101 from Washington commented…10mos10MO

They are dictatorships BECAUSE they were socially owned. I surprised your so stupid you haven't heard of the collective farms of the USSR -- everyone shared land equally, the collective wealth and resources. And it made starvation, it made dictatorship. Happened in Plymouth, when they shared all the labour of the farming equally, but what ended up happening was no one got motivated to do anything since they'd get food anyway? Result? No one got food. SOCIALLY OWNED, right there. Difference between us and the Pilgrims is that they LEARNED from their mistakes, while suckers like you keep making them.

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