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 @TheRightBitternGreenfrom New Jersey commented…2mos2MO

Macron is clearly signaling that EU countries are considering an overt ground intervention into Ukraine. It's more explicit language than he's ever used. Strange culmination of France fusing together with the historically rabid anti-Russia countries like Poland and Baltic states.

Apparently the idea is that these interventions would be organized bilaterally/multilaterally between France and other participating countries, outside any formal NATO framework. The idea has been floated in French media before, but this is it's most explicit promotion by Macron.

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 @Bip4rtisanOliviaLibertarian from Georgia commented…2mos2MO

US/NATO would have to institute draft to be useful. Ukraine already has access to all the NATO intelligence and satellites. So NATO going in will not bring any new tech.

Actually it will make it easier for Russia because Russia will finally shoot down NATO recon aircraft.

 @Gr33nPartyOilGreen from New York commented…2mos2MO

That would immediately expose all these countries to missile attacks from Russia and possibly fight for Suvalki gap Russia badly needs. Would not happen.

 @GrizzledMothTranshumanistfrom Missouri commented…2mos2MO

Won't happen outside NATO. If any of the Baltic states does that, they are toasted. That'll give a pretext for Russian invasion and/or destruction of their capitols. Say hello to a land path to Kaliningrad.

 @TenaciousPe0plesPartySocialist from South Carolina commented…2mos2MO

Strange because Macron has been more pacific with respect to Gaza.

Still, Germany says no so it's unlikely that this is anything more than idle banter.

  @lemans3427Republican from California commented…2mos2MO

This would be done bilaterally or multi-laterally, outside the NATO framework. So France bands together with some combination of Czechia, Poland, Baltics, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. to conduct the operation, bypassing Germany. UK potentially also involved

 @HumanR1ghtsBagelsLibertarian from Texas commented…2mos2MO

Correct. My main goal/wish is to keep US out of it because I don't want a nuclear exchange between US and Russia (it will be very unpleasant), but I don't care about the rest of them. They can go, best of luck to them.

 @ApricotsLarryPeace and Freedom from Wisconsin commented…2mos2MO

Poland and Czech Republic are also objecting now, though. Anyway, according to Slovakia's Fico, who leaked that whole thing in the first place, there were more countries than France willing to send troops on a bilateral basis.

 @C4pitalistJonnyPatriot from Kansas commented…2mos2MO

France is free to send all the troops to Ukraine that it wants.

 @SoulfulC1vilRightsLibertarian from California commented…2mos2MO

A western country facing an invasion should seriously back up and look at the big picture before sending it's protection.

Especially to defend a situation that is becoming increasingly difficult to determine the legitimacy of the conflict.

 @ExecutiveAlexaDemocrat from California disagreed…2mos2MO

So the deaths are all fake ? You people will say anything ti support Mother Russia.

 @SoulfulC1vilRightsLibertarian from California commented…2mos2MO

Please stop funding Democrats' money laundering scheme in Ukraine.

 @ExecutiveAlexaDemocrat from California commented…2mos2MO

You are either supporting Ukraine or Russia. It's obvious you support Putin. You also, apparently,don't realize what could happen to our Allies and our military if Putin wins Either you don't know or don't care.

 @WidgeonLunaPeace and Freedom from Iowa commented…2mos2MO

If the west cannot weaken Russia using western arms, money, & Ukrainian cannon fodder, how will the cheese-eating surrender monkeys in Paris fare?

 @GerrymanderKoalaSocialist from Michigan commented…2mos2MO

France just lost militarily to Niger, who they thought was their vasal. And now they want to take on a modern well equipped military like Russia?

All those countries combined could barely muster an army, much less one to wage an offensive war against Russia.

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington commented…2mos2MO

Really? This is the hill they want to die on? Russia annexing provinces *THAT WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA*? They want to start WORLD WAR III, and drag the United States kicking and screaming along with them into that dark abyss of nuclear conflict that will wipe from the face of the earth the human race? How can a human being like Macron be so incomprehensibly STUPID?

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia disagreed…2mos2MO

I’m pretty sure I debunked every shred of that argument before, but I’ll just paste the past message of mine in response to the last time you claimed we had any proof that the regions wanted to leave:

“Ah yes, the sham referendums of the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (Captured), the “Luhansk People’s Republic” (Also captured), the Kherson Oblast, and the Zaporizhzhia Oblast (Both partially under Russian administrative control). The referendums were done with extremely bad methodology, with proven reports of Russian coercion on citizens, limit…  Read more

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington disagreed…2mos2MO

So, since you believe those regions don't actually want to leave, you're under the illusion that we must support Napoleon Macron in his warmongering quest to launch Western Civilisation into a new dark age of bloody world war?

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia disagreed…2mos2MO

I dont BELIEVE they don’t want to leave, I KNOW they don’t want to believe, and personally, I do think it’s not a horrible plan, but first we need to talk about getting Russia to the table for actual talks and dialogue to keep this from spreading outwards.

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington disagreed…2mos2MO

I personally think jeopardising the survival of the human race to help one dictatorship win a hopeless war against another dictatorship is, by every conceivable metric, a "HORRIBLE PLAN"

 @ISIDEWITHasked…2mos2MO

What moral considerations come to mind when you think about a country arming another in an active conflict like the one in Ukraine?

 @ISIDEWITHasked…2mos2MO

How do you feel about France's decision to provide Ukraine with long-range weaponry in the context of global peace and security?

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