Converation thread

What rights did he specifically destroy?

Abortion for starters.

Murder is unlawful and unfounded killing. Abortion is not murder, it is killing. It is not unlawful (up to a certain point), because the FETUS is a zygote, an unfeeling and merely potential life form. It can’t feel anything, or think anything for a long time until it is nearly self-reliant. Is it human? Sure, about as human as one’s toenails or skin, but it isn’t sentient until far further into the pregnancy, and as the vast majority of abortions are done long before the fetus is even capable of thought, those ones are not immoral. It is about as much of an issue at that poi…  Read morent as cutting skin. It’s a part of them for the vast majority of the time, and as such, is part of their body and subject to their decisions while not sentient. I don’t expect to get you to stand down in the argument anymore than I will to you, but I’m done with people considering that as murder no matter the time.

I can see where you're coming from, and I appreciate your rational and obviously well-thought-out response, not at all motivated by emotion. But it turns out there are some fascinating biological distinctions between toenails and unborn children probably worth a few moments of consideration, on such a momentous issue:

(1) Toenails are part of a human being's body, whereas scientists have repeatedly demonstrated that an unborn child is a unique and totally separate individual from his mother, with his own circulatory system, organs, blood type, and even fingerprints. In fact, from the…  Read more moment of conception, he is his own person, totally separated from his mother. As one 1974 science textbook put it, "In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun.” In fact, the moment sperm meets eggs scientists have discovered a fascinating phenomena known as the "zinc flash" were there is a heavenly flash of light the moment the new life is formed.