Converation thread

You're not curing cancer, you're injecting gangrene into the soul of our country, a cancerous tumor of government bribery and bureaucratic rot that will devour our entire education system and kill everything America stands for.

Education should be free to all as a public service

Public education should be abolished

Just because it clearly failed you, doesn't mean everyone else was as unfortunate...

Look at the Thirteen States in 1776. Everyone read Thomas Paine's Common Sense with ease and understanding, teenagers did, preteens even, and bow it's considered college level and too advanced. None of these people saw a day in State-owned schools. Nowadays everyone just cheats with Chat GPT and is taught to hate America. Contrast and ask yourself, honestly, the. question "Has anything improved?" The honest answer is no. We've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by privatizing education

You do understand that literacy rates were much lower though, right? Not to mention the obvious disparities with women and non-whites at the time as well, right? Clearly not "everyone" was reading it...

Secondly, on your question of "Has anything improved?": yes, absolutely. Education has become a nationally-accessible service (at least k-12 education), where ALL children have guaranteed access to an education. Girls have guaranteed education, non-white children have guaranteed education, poor children have guaranteed education, etc...which was not guaranteed even a century…  Read more ago.

Girls were taught to read. The literacy rate was well above 90 percent. And the quality of what they read was better to. And creationism is not blatantly false, present one shred of evidence that it is.

In short I don't care about anything you said, because I am politically incorrect. I say Merry Christmas and God Bless America. I stand for the flag, kneel for the cross, thank our veterans and eat bacon. If this offends you, I don't care.

lol the literacy rate was not even close to 90%. The figure you're citing is from a book in 1974 that postulated that, by the end of the 18th century, around 90% of white New England men were literate. Which is exactly my point, that education and literacy was incredibly discriminatory and of significant disparity.

Secondly, creationism (at least as transcribed in the bible) is proven false by every piece of science discovered that explains the beginnings of life and the universe without the existence of a god. As even a simple example: the nearest galaxy to earth is the Andromeda galaxy,…  Read more which is around 2.5 million lightyears away. Given that a lightyear is the distance that light travels in one year, it means that the light coming from the Andromeda galaxy has traveled at lightspeed for around 2.5 million years. If the earth was younger than that, then we would physically not be able to see the Andromeda galaxy, because the visible light needed to see it in the first place would still be travelling through space. That fact alone already disproves the biblical age of creation.

The 2.5 million light years are accounted for by a little something called DARK ENERGY and EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE, which perfectly fits the Biblical time frame. You use dark energy to argue for evolution 1 minute than ignore it the next

lol dark energy is not expanding the universe at the rate you would need to fit a biblical timeline of creation. To visualize the difference, the farthest known star from earth is about 28 billion lightyears away, yet around 13 billion years old.

Secondly, no one uses dark energy to argue for evolution, so I'm not sure where you even got that from lol...

"Give me evidence to support your position."

lol "my position" of what..? You mean the scientific consensus on the age of the earth? According to all objective evidence and scientific research, the age of the earth is around 4.5 billion years old, found through a variety of different means and peer-reviewed sources.

Here it is explained by...

National Geographic: https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/how-did-scientists-calculate-age-earth/

University of Wisconsin: https://atmos.uw.edu/academics/classes/2001Q1/211/Group_projects/group_X_W01/tanya.htm

Scientifi…  Read morec American: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-science-figured-out-the-age-of-the-earth/

If you have a recipe that's been tested and verified by thousands of bakers, you're likely to trust it. Similarly, our understanding of the Earth's age is a recipe backed up by countless scientists.

But, for the speed of light changing its mind... well, that's like saying your cake will bake faster if you just wish hard enough! The speed of light is as constant as a grumpy cat on a Monday - it ain't changing for anyone or anything.

Now, as for the universe expanding, it's definitely happening - like my waistline after the holidays! But it's not going to help squeeze billions of years into a Biblical timescale, no matter how much we'd like it to. The numbers just aren't there.