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  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington commented…2mos2MO

The God-given right to property includes paying your workers, who voluntarily agreed to work for you, what you want, and operating your business as you want. Government's job is to protect that right, not destroy it.

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2mos2MO

The workers work for people because they’ll starve if they don’t. That’s not voluntary, that’s by necessity for survival. If they had the ability to work for themselves or live without work, then they’d be doing another job voluntarily, but that’s not what capitalist society is. Government serves as a way to make sure that a worker gets paid a fairer wage, and isn’t exploited worse than they already are, the exact same way government makes safety regulations for workplaces. Minimum wage reduces the amount of workers who could be paid unfairly, establishing a floor minimum to survive, and letting workers and employers negotiate additional wages if necessary. That’s far fairer overall

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington corrected…2mos2MO

The workers work for people because they’ll starve if they don’t. That’s not voluntary, that’s by necessity for survival.

It is 100% voluntary. Survival is just what incentives workers to voluntarily make that decision – the notion that that's the motive behind the transaction does not change the fact that it is still voluntary. They can chose to shrivel up and die, if they want. That option is open to them. Or they could choose to work somewhere else. But instead, they made the smart decision by choosing to work for someone else – and they would dese…  Read more

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2mos2MO

Under legal circumstances, we call that economic duress, and when the job market is intentionally attacked by businesses who are far less likely to actually NEGOTIATE as much as simply demand lowering their wages, that’s considered fine, though it fits the definition perfectly. Consent requires a neutral result if you refuse something, being starved is a negative result as a response to refusing to work in an unfair work environment. The very least that can be done is a floor wage that makes sure a bare minimum to actually be guaranteed survival in the workplace is necessary, no matter…  Read more

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington commented…2mos2MO

Why was the poverty rate five times higher in the USSR than the United States, then, if it worked so wonderfully? Is that what you call "poverty almost gone"?

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